Posted by
David Van Edema on Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:21:34 PM
A few days ago, an amendment (the "Thune Amendment"), was introduced by Senator John Thune (R-SD). It was theoretically supposed to make it easier for holders of Concealed Carry Permits to legally carry their concealed firearms into other states that also honored CWP's. However, it was narrowly defeated in the senate by a margin of 58 - 39, just two votes short of the necessary 60 vote majority. The biggest concern of the "nay" voters is that they believed that some CWP holders, who may have obtained their permits from a state of residence which had lax requirements, would be a "danger" to the populace of the states that they were visiting which had stricter requirements.
As the Thune Amendment required that the guest observe all of the laws and conditions for CWP holders of the host state, I'm not sure what the big controversy was, or even if such an amendment was even necessary. Still, the amendment was defeated; what's done is done.
Originally, I was planning on writing my thoughts on the amendment itself, contemplating whether state's rights trumped federal law, or even if the 2
nd Amendment of the Constitution trumped state law, but as I surfed through various websites and blogs, I came across a vast amount of myths and misinformation from bloggers, so-called journalists, as well as politicians, concerning CWP holders. The arguments and fears expressed against CWP holders varied from being somewhat reasonable... if naïve... to outright ridiculous.
Then, I figured that as a CWP holder myself... why not try to educate you a little bit about what the requirements and responsibilities of a CWP holder are? At best, you might learn something. At worst, you'll ignore what I say and call me an idiot. Since you won't be the first one to do so, I figure I have nothing to lose.
And so, here is what I went through to obtain a CWP in my resident state of Florida (I will also be providing links so that you can check the requirements of your own state.)
The first step was to visit the
Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services: Division of Licensing website. Feel free to browse the page, which contains many links concerning firearms licensing laws as well as other departments. The first link on the website I had to browse to get started was the "
Check eligibility for a Concealed Weapon/Firearm license". I then had to answer a list of questions, some which could admittedly be considered a bit silly (my favorite one is "are you a fugitive from justice?" Bet you can guess what happens if you answer "yes" to that one...).
Since I've been a good little citizen for most of my life, and having received an honorable discharge from the navy, I received a congratulatory message saying that based on my answers; I was qualified to have a concealed weapon.
Of course, as it was pointed out on the webpage, this little quiz does not actually
qualify you for a permit; it's merely a way of seeing for yourself if you could
apply for one.
I was then asked to click on a
link to determine what the next step is. As you can see, you are then asked to either download, or request printed copies of various forms and documents. I, being the type that likes to have physical copies on hand, requested them all by mail. You are then taken to a Form/Pamphlet Request page where you complete your order. The forms are free of charge, and in my case, took about two weeks to arrive.
Inside the packet, I received a 31-page booklet, an application, a fingerprint card, and a return envelope to stuff all the requested documents in to send back to the Department of Agriculture.
You can
read the booklet for yourself, which is a PDF file for the class "W" concealed weapon/firearm license. Just make sure you have a little time on your hands.
I then filled out the form, which requested personal information and a list of questions to answer. Finally, I had to sign the form, and have it notarized at a nearby police station . While I was there, I also needed to be fingerprinted. I should point out that while I had to use the old ink method, if you're lucky enough to be close to a police department that uses the electronic scan method (known as "LIVE SCAN"), get that. It's cleaner, quicker and cheaper (I think), but you
must do this at a police department for a CWP, it can't be done at the UPS office.
With the forms, notarization and fingerprinting finished, now I had to obtain a passport size photo for my permit. I recommend Walgreens for this service; 2 photos for around $9.00, and it only took about 15 minutes.
Since I received firearms training during my time in the military, I didn't need to submit a certificate for a firearms safety course. However, I did need to submit a copy of my discharge papers, or DD-214.
Into the envelope went the forms, photo, discharge papers, and a check for $117 ($75 license fee, $42 fingerprint fee) which was then mailed back to the Florida Department of Agriculture. This was back on December 23
rd. I then waited... and waited... and waited. Finally, on the last week of May (!), I received my permit. Normally, the waiting period is 90 days, but due to the increased demand after the Obama election, I had to wait a few more weeks than normal.
The permit was enclosed with a reminder that while the permit authorizes me to carry the firearm; it does not authorize me to
use it, as well as reminders of where I can't carry it. I also received a
question and answer pamphlet, and a sheet that described the laws in different states that would honor Florida's CWP's.
And that is what I needed to do to receive a CWP in the state of Florida.
On this link from the
Florida Division of Licensing website, there is a list of reciprocity states (states that will honor your permit) that, when clicked, will take you directly to that respective state's website.
If you're curious to see what's necessary to qualify for a permit in your state (if it's allowed), have a look at
this link here, courtesy of "
CarryConcealed.net". By no means is this the only site of this kind available. Try googling "concealed carry by state", and you'll find several other sites.
So there you have it. Hopefully, with the aid of the links I've provided above, you now know a little bit more about CWP's than you did before you read this.
In the near future, I will be posting a related article that should dispel some of the common fears and myths that I've read that are directed against CWP holders.